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SunRQ@2008-08-23 14:37
如果情况属实,确实值得同情……
SunRQ@2008-08-23 14:38
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日升说:不用急,原R2将以小说形式推出,欢迎购买
不对不对,是OVA形式的平行世界篇……
软骨兔@2008-08-23 14:46
本文的浓缩呈词:谷口的艺术被日升的商业给OOXX了.
sonicwt@2008-08-23 14:46
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最初由 炽十二翼 发布
于是有理由出R3了么?= =
甭出R3,就出个R1.5,完全按照谷口意思的剧场版吧。反正日升也肯定会出剧场版
dsjason@2008-08-23 14:47
朱雀隔着高文见到CC一段变成了没必要剧情……
yasuko@2008-08-23 14:48
I found something that looked like the Roman Album Taniguchi interview from 2ch yesterday.
<-原文看到此句后偶顿觉可信性大减.......
sonicwt@2008-08-23 14:49
R1的伏线完全没有回收的意思了
wqwz@2008-08-23 14:49
= = 前几天刚刚因为这事郁闷....
原文我也看了....Celiss也有自己的理解
我想说一下....
1. Code Geass第一部开播之前的剧本也和S1完全不一样....因为是好久之前看到的消息了...所以现在只记得好像主角是个正面角色.....后来也是因为被Sunrise给拒绝了...谷口才写出了现在的CG S1....不管怎么说.....我觉得现在的S1比什么好人主角好多了.....= = 谁知道谷口原来R2的剧本会不会比现在这个好呢.....
2. S1 原来是25集的...本来的两集因为宗教问题给和谐了....所以变成了23集...导致了当时那2集总编集....后来谷口还是以原来的计划完成了S1的最后两集.....原文在这里(英文):http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=916407&topic=43047093&page=49
3. "Everyone, for your reception of this work, allowing me to produce the ending I'd first envisioned"
谷口这么说的意思...应该是说R2的结局会跟他原本的想法是一样的.....
4. 谷口=Rolo.....
Rolo is an expression of Taniguchi’s frustration at not being able to develop R2 his way.
Rolo was forced into the story as part of the “re-envisioning” of the show that led to many changes, some of which suck ass. Taniguchi is aware of this. And he is aware of his own situation: forced to work with the damn thing anyway, for the profit of his superiors, no matter how he feels. I’m not making him out to be a great creative mind of a martyr, just noting that he kind of feels a little fucked. Hence, the place of Rolo in the story.
He’s unwanted. Defective. He’s made into what he is because external forces, in this case the Geass cult, decided on it. He does not start out with a will of his own, and his role is to deceive. This is how Taniguchi sees R2: an imperfect creation forced on the viewers, trying too hard to be liked and accepted. No doubt he sees himself as a “disposable rag” at the hands of the executives, and the show as possibly equally forgettable by the viewers. And then, of course, Rolo as the representation of the spirit of R2 kills something that was positive about R1.
So Rolo’s death is both an embodiment of sincerity and deception. On one hand, Rolo accepts his status as a tool but still strives toward what he believes is good in the end. A fairly plain admission by Taniguchi that his work has its failings, that his own capacities are limited, and that in spite of this, he will still try to work around the obstacles and make it good. The very removal of Rolo might even suggest a graudual return to his original plans. But on the other hand, the scene is highly emotionally manipulative, and a decent amount of effort was put into it, in spite of possible dislike for the character. And people seemed to drink it up. That in itself is a fuck-what-you-think-you’re-going-to-watch-this-shit-anyway at the viewer.
= =我懒得翻译了...
最后...我也觉得 R2 > S1.....貌似很多fans对R2不满意都是因为C.C.的出场率大减少阿.......
lightingwing@2008-08-23 14:57
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最初由 wqwz 发布
= = 前几天刚刚因为这事郁闷....
原文我也看了....Celiss也有自己的理解
我想说一下....
1. Code Geass第一部开播之前的剧本也和S1完全不一样....因为是好久之前看到的消息了...所以现在只记得好像主角是个正面角色.....后来也是因为被Sunrise给拒绝了...谷口才写出了现在的CG S1....不管怎么说.....我觉得现在的S1比什么好人主角好多了.....= = 谁知道谷口原来R2的剧本会不会比现在这个好呢.....
我倒听说原本CG的剧本里,
两主角是同一阵营的,]
其一是带队的指挥官,为求胜利什么都干,结果论者,
另一位是刚加入部队的热血青年,对上司这种做法不理解,
认为过程也很重要。
wqwz@2008-08-23 15:00
是这样么?我当时也是在Gamefaqs上看的...你这么一说好像是这样的.....>__> 你记性真好....
总之和现在的CG完全不一样就对了......||
等等...仔细一看两人的想法还是Lulu和Suzaku阿......如果当时Zero把Suzaku给收服了估计就会变成这样吧....天啊...= =那还不得整天打....
kira1226@2008-08-23 15:20
只要结局是美好的就可以了~
天刃@2008-08-23 15:25
谷口泪流满面
日升自重
zloongz@2008-08-23 15:26
DVD.BD销量也不是万能的吧,当初GSD销量更火到不行,监督还不是照样被炒的?
而且R2的销量不见得很好啊,1卷特典特多,都被形容是大甩卖了。
1期出货数是80万吧,2期好像是90万,倒没见得会增长很多,关键是R2评价确实比
S1差很多。监督现在出来圆场了。
stern@2008-08-23 15:33
对日升来说,谷口就是抹布命?
原来的剧本不要浪费了,出平行世界R1.5好了。
拿到ROMAN ALBUM再确认真实性。
Seilane@2008-08-23 15:36
戏份少的遗憾的部分出个OVA或者剧场版补完吧.....个人对C.C.出场那么少沦为路人愿望能否实现非常不满
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