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20世纪少年@2006-10-17 00:14

谎言重复一千遍也变成真理!!!再看看这篇德国之声的报道,
(德国之声版权所有)
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  韩国亮剑法兰克福,金元开道名著挡路
  Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: 韩国作家闪亮登场
  “从《直指》到U书”——韩国高举两把文化利剑,外加1500万欧元的巨额入场费,以“古典与现代完美结合”的新颖形象呈现在法兰克福国际书展的主宾国前台。然而,为何诸多国际知名书商依然望“韩流”而却步呢?   
  
  利剑之一:《直指》  
  
  走进国际书展的主宾国会馆(Gastland Forum),仿佛进入了一片后现代风格的远古艺术丛林。尽管大厅中央的石墓林慑人心魄,极具惊悚效应,设计者的独到匠心还是令人暗自称奇 。18根仿石器时代的石墓碑柱烘托出历史氛围,白墙上闪现出一排白光灵动的警句:“超越时代——浑然不觉。”
    
  Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: 在石墓林中走读“1377年,世界上发生过什么惊天动地的大事?”韩国方面的答案是:人类历史上最古老的金属活字本——《白云和尚抄录佛祖直指心体要节》(简称《直指》)诞生了,这比德国人古登堡(Gutenburg)的四十二行圣经还要早78年。  
  
  自认为一直站在日本、中国文化阴影里的韩国,此次便是高举着 “活字印刷术起源国”的尚方宝剑,一路劈开路障,顺利登上全球最大书展主宾国的舞台,在数万观众的集体记忆里刻上烙印。
   
  
  然而,“金属活字印刷”一直是中韩两国之间共同争夺的古代科学专利。北宋时期,平民毕昇发明活字印刷术,但在韩国学者看来,毕昇只有奇思妙想,所造活字并不适用,很快便被束之高阁。中方专家引用《梦溪笔谈》、《造活字印书法》等历史文献中的相关资料反唇相讥,要求韩国学界匡正视听、还历史本来面目。近年来,韩国政府对《直指》表现出异乎寻常的重视,进行了超大规模的宣传,并争取到了联合国教科文组织的承认,确立了《直指》的世界元老地位,并将之编入小学课本以传后世。
  
  
  于是,韩国,确切地说——南韩,昨天还委屈地隐身于中、日两位芳邻的光环之下,今天就俨然成了人类书籍印刷的指路人。另据史书记载,公元1443年,精通儒学的韩世宗李祹命令集贤殿学士创立了由11个元音和14个辅音组成的表音字母。这种文字三年后颁布时被称为“训民正音”,在此之前,几乎所有的高丽王朝历史、典章、文艺、科技书籍都使用汉字记载。据展会负责人介绍,正是因为韩语字母“一天之内即可学会”,韩国的文盲率几乎为零。
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xwz@2006-10-17 00:14

相对于日本的右翼势力,我更讨厌这些韩国人YY我们的东西。最让人鄙视的不是敌人,而是贱人……
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sirbillk@2006-10-17 00:15

看了老外的我恨汗呀~~我根本不知道棒子语是什么阿尔泰语系~~看来老外的学识是很令人赞叹的~~
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萌の推倒达人@2006-10-17 00:16

....起码别人还知道抄......
国内那帮老大连抄都懒得抄.......
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Dr.凡@2006-10-17 00:22

这,这贴好激励……汗

其他先不说…其实我感觉至少应该舍弃“小日本”“高丽”“棒子”这些词…
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yyss527@2006-10-17 00:47

棒子生动地为我们诠释了“牌坊下面做婊子”这句话……
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dizyh@2006-10-17 00:52

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最初由 ps2fan 发布
这,这贴好激励……汗

其他先不说…其实我感觉至少应该舍弃“小日本”“高丽”“棒子”这些词…


人敬我一分,我敬人一分;人贱我一寸,我贱人万丈!:cool:
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bushzt@2006-10-17 01:06

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最初由 20世纪少年 发布
看看这篇帖子里(节选了一部分)的棒子是如何意淫以及老外是如何反驳的,最后一个老外的发言尤为精彩
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不管这里面几个老外究竟是真正的学者还是普通的历史爱好者。。他们对东亚历史的了解程度都有点超乎我的意料。。
对国人的性格特点更是有种旁观者清的意味。。

和他们比起来我们很多国人仅凭着一腔热血和对自己国家一知半解的程度就来反击了,从这个角度看,他们和狂妄无知的棒子国没有区别。在此帖的表现也不例外。。
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20世纪少年@2006-10-17 01:27

这是那个棒子白痴的论证
(这是转贴,原贴在国观,棒子贴地址上面有提到)
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Peter
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     Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2002 3:41 am Post subject: Korean invented chinese language
    
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     1. The original pictographs called 'gab-gol' (bone and shell) or 'bok-sa' in Korean were certainly invented during the Yin dynasty (or Shang state, BC 1600~BC 1046), although it is uncertain who was the inventor. There is no dispute regarding this matter between Korean and Chinese historians. There are ample recent evidences that the dominant people of the Yin dynasty was Korean, which some Chinese historians also acknowledge.
     最早的象形文字叫'gab-gol'(骨头和贝壳)或者在韩国叫'bok-sa' 确定发明在殷商时代(公元前1600-1046年),尽管还没有确定谁是它的发明者,对于这件事韩国和中国的历史学家都没有争议.近来有大量的证据显示,殷朝的统治者是韩国人,这是一些中国历史学家也承认的事实.
     2. Among countries that adopted Chinese character, only Koreans use exactly one syllable for one character. Chinese or Japanese used one or more syllables for one character. A good example is the sounds denoting the numbers. Only Koreans use just one syllable for one number. So, it is very easy for Koreans to say any complex numbers quickly.
    
     For another example, the sound for 'white' in Chinese character in 'baek' (one syllable) in Korean but 'bai' (two syllable) in Chinese. Regarding the character denoting 'head', it is 'doo' in Korean but 'tou' in Chinese. On the other hand, it is the same for thecharacter denoting 'mountain' - 'shan' in both Korean and Chinese.
    
     Why have Koreans used only one syllable for one character, but Chinese one or more syllables? It certainly shows that Chinese pronunciation system is a variant from Korean counterpart.
    
     2.在采纳了汉字的国家中,只有韩国严密的一个音节表达一个汉字,中国和日本都使用一个或者更多的音节表达一个汉字.一个很好的例子是数字的发音,只有韩国人用一个音节表达一个数字,所以对韩国人来说很容易表达复杂的数字.
     另外一个例子是汉字"白"的发音,在韩国只有一个音节,在中国却有两个音节.汉字"头",在韩国读"doo"而在中国读"tou".同样的,汉字"山"也是这样的问题.
     为什么韩国人只使用一个音节表达一个汉字,而中国人却用更多的音节表达汉字呢?那只能确凿地说明中国人的发音系统完全不同于韩国人的发音系统
3. Some basic pictographs reflect Korean life-style and customs. For example, the character denoting 'house' (ga in Korean) contains a character denoting a pig (hog) in the lower part. In the house, people live, not a pig live. Why did they adopt a pig to denote a house? Only Koreans
    raised pigs within their house.
    
     Another example is the character denoting 'sun'. The character contains a dot within a rectangle. Why did they contain the dot, seemingly unnecessarily? The dot denotes a golden crow. Only Koreans had the legend linking the sun to the golden crow.
    
     Additional example is the character denoting 'surname' (ssi in Korean). In Chinese, the character denotes only 'surname' while it denotes both 'surname' and 'seed' in Korean. 'Ssi' is a most common word in Korean and
    compares the pedigree with the tree (i.e., the seed is a common symbol for the original ancestor whose trace has been handed down by his surname).

     3.有些基本的象形文字反映了韩国人的生活方式和习俗.
    比如说,汉字"屋"表示一头猪在一个矮房子里.而在房子里,是人居住,而不是猪在居住.为什么他们会接受用一头猪来表示房子的意思??因为只有韩国人在房子里饲养猪.
     另外一个例子是汉字"日"---在一个正方形里有一点.为什么他们会包含一点,看起来好象是没有必要的?其实那一点代表的是一只金色的乌鸦,只有韩国人有这样的传说---太阳和金色的乌鸦有联系.
     还有一个例子是汉字"姓"(韩国是ssi).在中国"姓"只表示一个人的姓,而在韩国它即表示"姓"还表示"种子","姓"是韩国最常用的单词,比喻家族祖谱的树状结构(比如:种子对于起源的祖先来说是最通常的象征---根据他的姓来追源朔流.
4. Korean history book describes the origin of written systems, which is inscribed in dolmens in Korea.
    
     A Korean history book called Chun-bu-gyung records the origin of both current Chinese character and Korean alphabet (hangul). Chinese character is a kind of pictograph + ideograph, while hangul is the most advanced of phonogram + ideogram in the world. Bone and shell inscriptions were a pictograph, while hexagrams of I-ching invented by Fu Xi (Bokhwi in Korean) are a kind of ideogram. The original character for both Chinese character
    and hangul was 'Nok-doo-mun' (the most ancient writing system), according to the Chun-bu-gyung. Currently, only Koreans still play a game called 'Yout', which is believed to be very similar to the 'Nok-doo-mun'. The principles of
    Yout game are essentially the same as I-Ching. Moreover, in Korea and Manchuria, currently there are many ancient rocks (dolmen) in which various kinds of primitive writings are inscribed (see somepictureshttp://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/rokdo.htm)
    
     Based on these four facts, I strongly argue that the Chinese character was originated and developed by Koreans. The differences in pronunciation system for numbers between Chinese and Korean clearly indicates it's Korean origin.
    
     韩国的历史书描述了书写系统的起源,被记录在韩国史前的墓碑上.
     一本叫"Chun-bu-gyung "的韩国历史书同样记录了汉字和韩语字母的起源.中国汉字是一种象形和表意文字,而韩语是世界上最先进的象形表意文字.甲骨文是一种象形文字,而伏曦(在韩国叫Bokhwi )发明的hexagrams of I-ching在韩国却是表意文字.汉字和韩语的起源是'Nok-doo-mun' (最古老的书写系统).而到今日,韩国人依然玩一种游戏叫"Yout',被认为看起来和'Nok-doo-mun'非常相似.这个游戏的规则基本上等同于 I-Ching.此外,在韩国和满州,有许多古代不同书写系统的岩刻.
    
     基于这四点,我强烈地认为,汉字是韩国人发明并发展了的.而韩国人和中国人在对数字的发音不同则更清晰地表明--韩国人是汉字的起源/.
I add my message on Fu Xi and I-Ching. Fu Xi (or Bokhwi in Korean) is one of the candidates for the inventor of Chinese characters. Han and 'I Ching' The hexagrams of the I Ching were said to have been created by the legendary emperor 'Fu Xi' after he had contemplated on a diagram
    called Ha Do that was bestowed from the Heaven. Han scholars rewrote many myths as fact to fill gaps in early Chinese history. Fu Xi was declared to have been the very first emperor, ruling from 2852 to 2737 BC. He was said to have been the inventor of musical instruments and Chinese handwriting
     对伏曦和I-Ching我再多说几句,伏曦在韩国叫 Bokhwi,是汉字发明者的侯选之一.据说伏曦得到了上天赐给的叫"河图"的神书,然后创造了八卦和汉.汉族的许多历史学家编造了很多神话来填充他们历史.伏曦被认为是最早的皇帝,统治时期从公元前2852到2757年,他并且被认为是乐器和中国书法的创造者.
  
  
    Chinese legend says that Fu Xi is the most senior one among the three ancestors. Together with N-Wa, the women who he married with, they started the civilization of human being. The current Fu Xi's Temple in Shandong was built on a 6-meter high terrace. In the main hall, Fu Xi's state was placed and sacrifices are given. And in the back of the
    hall, N-Wa's statue was placed .
     中国传说称伏羲氏三位祖先中地位最高的。他和女娲,他的妻子,以其开创了人类文明。现在在山东的伏羲庙建在一个高6米的平台上,主殿供有伏羲像,前列供品,主殿的背则共有女娲像
body is in the form of a snake. Inferring from the scientific nature of the I Ching, it may just be possible that Fu Xi was an extraterrestrial. If Fu Xi was indeed the first ancestor of Chinese, then how could the descendents describe their first ancestor as a monster? Why did ancient Chinese historians initially consider Fu Xi as just a legend? Ancient Chinese call their neighboring people as "bugs" or"barbarians". The monster portrait suggests that Fu Xi might have been from a neighboring country, not Chinese countries. What was that country?
     说伏羲上身是人,下身是蛇,考虑到八卦的科学性质,只有一个可能:伏羲氏是外星人。如果伏羲真的是汉族人的第一个祖先,那他的后代怎能把他描述成一个怪物呢?为什古代的中国历史学家只是把伏羲当作一个传说人物?古代汉族人把他们的邻居称作“虫豸”或“蛮子”。伏羲的怪物形象说明他可能来自邻国而不是中国。是哪个国家呢?
     "Fu Xi came from the nationality called East Yi dwelling in theNeolithic Age, along the coastal area of the present-day Shandong Province and, therefore, Fu Xi turned out to have come from Shandong Province" (quoted from a Chinese site [4])
     What was "East Yi"? Of course, "Yi" means "barbarians" in Chinese. Most Koreans know what is "Dong (east) Yi". People in 'East Yi' are known to have been very good at archery, as Korean Olympic archery teams are today. The Chinese character "Yi" indeed symbolize the shape of a big bow. Surprisingly. the recently discovered Korean history text titled "Han Dan Go Gi" describes the life of "Fu Xi"
    (Bokhwi in Korean) . There are ample recent evidences that the dominant people of the Yin dynasty was Korean, which some Chinese historians also acknowledge.
    
    
     “伏羲来自新石器时代一个称为“东夷”的国家。该国位今天的山东省沿海地区,因此,结论是伏羲来自山东。“(摘自某中国站)
     “东夷”是什?当然,“夷”在汉语中是“野蛮人”之意。大部分高丽人知道什叫“东夷(Dong Yi)”。“东夷”人已精射术闻名,正如今天的韩国射箭队。汉字“夷”实表示一把弓的形状。令人的是,最近发现的名为《Han Dan Go Gi》的韩国历史文本描述了伏羲(韩语称Bokhwi)的一生。近来有大量的证据显示,殷朝的统治者是韩国人,这是一些中国历史学家也承认的事实.
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eilot@2006-10-17 01:35

最大問題是泡菜國是沒有歷史的,不像中國有5千年以上深厚歷史,也沒有日本那麼歷史,作出長期是一個附庸小國,自卑感是這樣吧了,看他的歷史,不是被人打,就是給錢換一時和平,全是自卑的...
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来不及思考@2006-10-17 01:54

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最初由 无忌哥哥 发布
事实证明

如果没有日本动画

中国对日本有好感,替小日本说话的人将减少一半以上!!


半针见血,文化永远是政治的一部分 [/TX]
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E代贱人@2006-10-17 04:47

我想知道棒子的历史可有传承下来的物品见证
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azcat110@2006-10-17 08:55

一个看不懂自己历史书的民族...

可说回来,国人来抄的话估计更不堪...
从这点来说,不期待动漫得到国家重视
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hoohoo@2006-10-17 09:08

我朋友帮出版社画小说封面=。=(时下特别流行的那种),编辑总是要他们画的更哈韩一点。。。说不定以后就会有人yy中国漫画来源于泡菜国(真贴切)漫画
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stevenzero@2006-10-17 09:21

金太阳要来这逛一下会不会打抱不平扔个核弹过来:o
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