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"十个艺术大学毕业生（MFA）去向"，名校，年收入的巨大差异

Shirley.Ambiv@2007-05-10 09:37

http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/4c123d04010006lc
不能转载，大家直接看吧

仅供参考……
（注：作者范围仅限美国学校）

觉得想赚大钱只能靠商科的可以觉醒一下:D

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jsan@2007-05-10 11:42

I think it is the difference of their job, not where they went to school that matters.

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jack34b@2007-05-10 11:43

天時地利人和缺一不可~

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雨过天晴@2007-05-10 13:14

LZ你诱惑我。。。。。。。
搞得我现在想学fashion design TAT 但是Portfolio唉！好难好难好难！！！

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Shirley.Ambiv@2007-05-11 00:00

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最初由 jsan 发布
I think it is the difference of their job, not where they went to school that matters.

some how it does matters

A Brief Guide To Design Education
http://www.core77.com/design.edu/readme.asp

Philosophy

Different programs have different emphases. Some are more skills oriented, others more conceptual. Some educate graduates who are more suited to corporate design offices, others teach those who are more suited to consultancy work (not to say these are mutually exclusive, but consultancies often have somewhat different needs). Some programs emphasize knowledge of engineering and manufacturing more than others, while others have a focus on environmental sustainability. None of these is necessarily right or wrong, you just have to think about what you want.

Placement

A program needs to have a good post-graduation network to help you find a job. Ask the head of the program about how many of their graduates go on to successful design careers - ask for specifics of when, and what companies, and in what capacity. How connected is the program with the local (if there is one) professional design community? Do outside designers come in for critiques? Does the school sponsor projects with outside (local or other) companies?

Internships

Find out what requirements the school has for internships (in my view it should require at least one before graduation, as many employers strongly prefer even freshly-minted graduates to have work experience in a design studio and how much support it provides to help students find internships. This is related to point #2 - is the school well connected? If it's not and doesn't have design firms locally that can provide internships, you will be left to your own devices and will have to relocate temporarily to do the internship (which will need to be over summer break). All of these things are do-able, and living in different parts of the country to work can be great fun, but it’s good to be aware of options.

Faculty

Faculty make or break a program. Some of the most important questions have to do with them: what is their experience level as professional designers? How good are they as teachers?. Some schools, particularly universities, have a larger proportion of tenured faculty that might not have set foot in a design office in 15 or 20 years, and relatively few part-time professors who are also working designers; while other schools have the reverse. Again, ask for specifics: which members of the faculty have worked at which firm for how long, in what capacity, and what kinds of projects did they work on? Ask to see resumes. Not to say that tenured faculty are all bad, but the design world is changing rapidly at the moment, and a good program needs to be up-to-date and bring real-world experience into the classroom.

Reputation

As much as you can, once you've got your list narrowed down, ask around in the professional design community about the reputations of those schools. It’s good to hear from others that the program you are interested in is worth attending. And make sure the school is accredited! This is absolutely essential in the US, especially if you decide later you want to go for a graduate degree. The IDSA has a list of accredited ID programs, and if a program is not accredited you should really think hard about investing yourself there.

Fundamentals

Don’t take this for granted! All programs should provide an understanding of the basics of the profession and access to facilities that will allow you to explore the design world. Learning how products work, how to make them work better, how they are made, why they look good or bad, and how to present ideas are all core requirements in this field. Easy access to libraries with relevant industrial design materials, as well as to wood-working, metal-working, and plastics shops, is essential to your studies.

At a recent design conference, I heard hiring designers reviewing student portfolios remark "If I were some of these students, I'd demand my money back from the school. They just aren't prepared." Don’t let yourself be one of these students. By doing your homework before you start your education, you’ll be prepared to take advantage of every opportunity the program has to offer, and become a better designer as a result.

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Shirley.Ambiv@2007-05-11 00:03

Fashion 顶级学校圣马丁为例

（摘自中文官方网站）

本科服装专业
BA Fashion

多种专业方向供学生选择，在时装业的广泛领域内，为学生提供一个有利于创新、发明的学习氛围。中央圣马丁学院的时装专业因培养了具有革新精神和高度创造性的设计师和时装传媒人士而享誉全世界。我们的毕业生在时装业的各个领域中都做出了杰出贡献，其中最著名的有：John Galliano，Hussein Chalayan，Warren Noronha，Stella McCartney，以及记者Iain R Webb，amsin Blanchard 和Katie Grand。我们与世界著名的时装公司关系也很密切，这些公司包括：Dior，Gucci，Marks & Spencer，Donna Karan，Versace，Calvin Klein，Ungaro，Tank Magazine，Sleaze Nation 等。

中央圣马丁学院的老师全都是非常有经验的专业从业者。由于学院和时尚产业的紧密联系，我们的时装专业能够吸引很多很有影响的教师和访问学者。过去2年的客座教师包括Tristan Webber, Lutz Huelle, Sonja Nuttall, Jean Charles de Castelbajac, Julian Roberts, Camille Bidault-Waddington, Shelley Fox和 Katharine Hamnett.

实习机会
有很多机会参与由国际知名品牌赞助的项目，如Motorola, Walt Disney, Iomega S.A. (瑞士), Kintetsu (日本), Ghost, L'Oreal Professionnel, Mattel 和伦敦the Victoria & Albert 博物馆。时装专业还和包括 McQueen, Galliano, Gucci, Julien McDonald, Marks & Spencer, Chloe, Donna Karan, Versace, Calvin Klein和 Ungaro在内的时尚界品牌有密切联系。

硕士时装专业
MA Fashion

时装专业硕士毕业生都成功的建立了自己的事业，成为出色的设计师，导演，记者；有些毕业生选择创立自己的品牌，女装方向的毕业生在以下公司供职：Stella McCartney, Adidas, Calvin Klein, Cerrutti, Chloe, Marc Jacobs, Donna Karan, DKNY, Ghost, Gucci, Jil Sander, Loewe, Martine Sitbon, Nike, Lanvin, Nicole Fahri, Versace, Armani, Valentino, Aquascutum, Monsoon, Pringe, Roberto Cavalli, Ungaro. 学生自己创立的品牌有：Alexander McQueen, Bora Aksu, Emma Cook, Jens Laugesen, Miki Fukai, Ashish, Richard Nicoll, Robert Cary Williams, Sinhastanic, Shelley Fox, Sophia Kokosalaki and Tristan Webber, Roksanda Ilincic.

男装方向的毕业生多在以下公司供职：Carol Christian Poel, Dolce & Gabbana, Neil Barrett, Gucci, Jil Sanders,Adidas, Puma, Versace, Yves Saint Laurent, Topman, Levis, Missoni. 学生自己创立的品牌有： Kim Jones, Peter Jensen, Griffin, Siv Stoldal.

针织服装方向的毕业生在如下公司工作：John Smedley, Martine Sitbon, Yves Saint Laurent, Marks & Spencer plc, Issey Miyake, Ralph Lauren, Sonia Rykiel, Stella McCartney, Chloe, Valentino, Gucci, Liz Claiborne, Banana Republic. 学生自己创建的品牌包括：Claire Tough, Alex Gore Browne, Michelle Lowe-Holder.

纺织品方向的学生在Louis Vuitton, Top Shop, Versace, Ungaro, Valentino, Dries van Noten, Ghost, Puma等公司工作，学生自己创立的品牌有：Jonathan Saunders, Basso & Brooke, Eley Kishimoto.

时装新闻方向的学生在全球的知名时尚媒体工作，如 ID Magazine, Another Magazine, Dazed and Confused, Self Service, The Guardian, Sam, The Independent, The Sunday Times, Marie Claire, The Telegraph, Vogue, vogue.co.uk, Vogue USA, Vogue China.

硕士纺织品设计专业
MA Design for Textiles Futures

我们的毕业生都会进入很多世界知名公司工作，例如Adidas阿迪达斯, Banff New Media, Castelbajac, Donna Karan, Etam艾格, Hussein Chayalan, Line Consultants, Louis Vuitton路易·威登, Margiela, Media Lab Europe, NicoleFarhi, Speedo, TedBaker and Trend Union。还有很多在毕业后创立了自己的公司，并多次获得世界大奖。其它选择在大学里进行教学工作。我们的毕业生也会供职于知名的出版公司并取得了很好的成绩，例如Elle Decoration, Crafts, Selvedge, Surface, International Textiles, Viewpoint, View Colour, Frame, Sleazenation and Creative Review。其它到英国的重要设计机构负责设计展览，像the V&A and the Craft Council。

品牌看得女生两眼闪光:D

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雨过天晴@2007-05-11 11:31

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最初由 jsan 发布
I think it is the difference of their job, not where they went to school that matters.

it really depends
for some professions, esp the ones in the entertainment or things to do with high-end products, you HAVE TO have the right connections to get anywhere. they r very elitist circles.
and u get those connections while in school...through alumni .. and interns

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renas@2007-05-11 12:05

还是要有机遇的。。

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雨过天晴@2007-05-15 08:29

TAT
LZ~~~~ 你那天的suggestion我认真考虑了一下，但是老妈直接跟我说“英国留学供不起” 。。。我也不用再继续做梦了 orz

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Illidan212@2007-07-07 07:02

商科考出来也要看有没有大脑...光毕业没用要有实际

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chiron灰羽@2007-07-07 07:31

艺术真的是天赋决定一切的。学的人并不在少数，但拔尖的只有寥寥。

不过理工科从商比专职商的更有优势。