最初由 Placebo 发布
抄袭不好说,有时候灵感来了,编出来的和别人一样那也是没办法的
菅野洋子抄襲?!
angelblue@2007-11-16 17:34
這是我近日在nico上找到的52manhua@2007-11-16 18:18
贝多芬也被指为抄袭,这个也不例外。斑目总受@2007-11-17 09:56
8小节雷同的话,就是抄袭.Placebo@2007-11-17 14:46
抄袭不好说,有时候灵感来了,编出来的和别人一样那也是没办法的Xenor@2007-11-17 17:19
有实力的人不存在抄袭maliyingcherry@2007-11-17 21:11
。。。。。。又是这个话题。。。羽毛毛@2007-11-18 09:59
引用最初由 Placebo 发布
抄袭不好说,有时候灵感来了,编出来的和别人一样那也是没办法的
bluedragon@2007-11-18 15:02
总会有雷同的时候吧~5418644@2007-11-19 09:51
=v=楼上几位原来还在漫游活着啊……wbcan@2007-11-19 12:33
楼主的链接,日语的不懂,注册的不能引用
羽毛毛@2007-11-19 14:40
引用最初由 wbcan 发布
这讨论串回答的够好了
maliyingcherry@2007-11-20 09:18
引用最初由 wbcan 发布
楼主的链接,日语的不懂,注册的不能
这讨论串回答的够好了
superkidx@2007-11-24 11:55
http://bbs.stage1st.com/viewthread.php?tid=315711&extra=&page=1wbcan@2007-11-27 10:57
重了,重了,stage1st那个帖子英文链接就是YKFAN讨论的主题引用啊。引用pisayoz (1 week ago) -1 (Reply)
To deny that we now live in a remix culture is delusion, and to fight the free culture movement is futility: the Internet is a memetic cancer made of light. Originality, or whatever value we once held for its achievement, is now defined by popularity. Pop culture can only remember so much, moreso verify every entertaining lie it endlessly generates. All I can say is: Sit, stare, shut up and worship everything.
pisayoz (1 week ago) -1 (Reply)
Btw, I am one of the last delusional audience who fights the futile
war against "unoriginality" and who still believes that there is a
Person behind every art. I worship Yoko Kanno for her original works, and not how she recently ripped-off Clint Mansell's Lux Aeterna for Smooth in the Shell. Mansell, btw, ripped that off Cradle of Filth's Lustmord and Wargasm
引用eddefy22 (1 week ago) (Reply)
honestly yako kano makes it sounds better!
引用AlusPryde (2 weeks ago) (Reply)
No offense, but you could take any artist and with enough spare time and a good use of google, you could find many songs similiar to their songs.
At that's without taking into account what FreUser wrote
引用FreUser (3 weeks ago)
A connection can also be made between Yoko Kanno's "Revenge" and Maurice Ravel's "Bolero".
There is a large difference between stealing, borrowing, and homaging when it comes to music, and I believe Kanno intentionally practices the latter. Part of what makes her so brilliant is her ability to incorporate snippets of other popular works into her pieces, while still the majority original. It is known as an allusion, and it doesn't only appear an literature.
引用96workorange (Reply)
Actually,she pinched some lines from their original music.
引用MrBounce123 (1 month ago) -1
You do realize a lot of her music is re-arrangements and re-mixes of existing songs...? Always has been, and probably always will be.
引用xensan76 (1 month ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply)
Eh, not really
引用inspecterclouseau (3 weeks ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply)
Yoko Kanno follows in the tradition of composers like Gluck, Salieri, Sacchini, Cherubini, Méhul and Spontini. She takes the innovations of her time and attempts to push them forward whist paying homage to the musicians she manages to emulate into her own language. Also, those who may never have heard the music she was inspired from, can probably gain insight into how great ideas are inspired.
karmaka (3 weeks ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply)
Any example?
inspecterclouseau (3 weeks ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply)
Also, those who may never have heard the music she was inspired from, can probably gain insight into how great ideas are inspired. I'm pretty sure that the ideas shown here in comparison to Kanno are also inspired in much the same way.
引用inspecterclouseau (3 weeks ago) Show Hide Marked as spam +1 (Reply)
You just need to search and search. Just like Brahms said about his 1st symphony, "Of course that's Beethoven in my symphony, only an idiot would not realize that!" Stravinsky said, "Great composers don't borrow, they steal". This kind of comparison is interesting, but I hope it is not the goal of the author to shame Mrs. Kanno, that would be ignorant of musical history.
引用JetBlackBlues (1 week ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply)
There's a difference between inspiration and theft. Comparing these examples of shameless and ethically galling plagiarism to the work of Brahms and Stravinsky is specious. The history of music is not a history of empty parroting. You're apologizing for Kanno.
引用spicykakimochi (2 weeks ago) -1 (Reply)
If anything, I should thank Yoko Kanno for letting me explore all these different composers and artists. If I hadn't searched her name, I would never have heard any of these songs in my life!
Every song that is similarly taken is twisted a little to make it sound like "Yoko Kanno". I appreciate her ability to recognize potential in other songs and artists to use it in her music.
引用asedatedmoose (1 week ago) (Reply)
In defense of Kanno, there are times when a director/writer/producer is thinking of a song that already exists for a part in a show or movie, and the musical director has to come up with something similar to that. Also, even with great jazz musicians, they'll sometimes play their own version of a song and give it a different name, like the different versions of I got Rhythm.
引用fatchan (1 week ago) (Reply)
Yeah I second this. Producers want a song similar to the ones they envision for the song but just different enough so they don't have to pay for the original licensing.
引用最初由 羽毛毛 发布
出现了出现了... wbcan好久不见;)
引用最初由 maliyingcherry 发布
WB!!你还活着@_@ orz...
给你发邮件你都不回呢。。。何时回国我们聚聚啊?
羽毛毛@2007-11-28 11:50
wbcan不敢当啊,还是希望你有空能多来ykfan那边坐坐 :)