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Sephiroth0328@2005-06-23 12:11
avi有点大，不太喜欢，只有经典好看的或是OVA/剧场版动画才收avi，MKV更好~
在下看动画离屏幕比较远，看RMVB就够了~
修.艾尔希修斯@2005-06-23 12:30
无所谓了╮(╯_╰)╭ 出来啥格式看啥......
PlutoHades@2005-06-23 12:35
实际上RMVB10的算法比divx、xvid都要好，在同等画质下体积小，在同等体积下质量好，说rmvb质量不好的只是主观偏见，你非要拿450krmvb和2Mxvid比，我就没办法了
算法才是王道，只是rmvb压缩速度太慢了而已，但是压缩比高
就象winrar比winzip压缩稍慢，但是压缩比高一样
mummy@2005-06-23 12:44
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最初由 PlutoHades 发布
实际上RMVB10的算法比divx、xvid都要好，在同等画质下体积小，在同等体积下质量好，说rmvb质量不好的只是主观偏见，你非要拿450krmvb和2Mxvid比，我就没办法了
算法才是王道，只是rmvb压缩速度太慢了而已，但是压缩比高
就象winrar比winzip压缩稍慢，但是压缩比高一样
RMVB是封闭编码，单就这点就够判它死刑了……
RAR和ZIP，两者都选最大压缩，压缩一个700M的文件，你可以看看两者时间差别，再看看压缩率差别……为了省那十来M浪费我半个小时时间，实在不划算
而且讲压缩率的话，7Z貌似比RAR还好，而且是FREEWARE
当然RAR也有它的优点，例如恢复记录，不过就不扯那么远了……
Gzxhwq@2005-06-23 13:24
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最初由 PlutoHades 发布
实际上RMVB10的算法比divx、xvid都要好，在同等画质下体积小，在同等体积下质量好，说rmvb质量不好的只是主观偏见，你非要拿450krmvb和2Mxvid比，我就没办法了
算法才是王道，只是rmvb压缩速度太慢了而已，但是压缩比高
就象winrar比winzip压缩稍慢，但是压缩比高一样
rv真的比mpeg4先进？同码率的rv就一定能比mpeg4出色？不要带有编码歧视…… RV普遍不压高码率，绝对不是编码时间长短的关系，压高码率的rm和低码率的rm相差时间不会相差太远……
淅沥哗啦@2005-06-23 14:45
哈哈 大讨论了～技术与时俱进 没有一味的强者 以前说real擅长低码率 mpeg4诸编码适合高码率
现在看来 mpg4 低码率照样嚣张 不说x.264 h.264了（因为这两个 用real的码率压片完全不是问题）
xvid 现在低码率 也不是很难咯 经常看到2个多小时的片压到1cd
real也不过如此吧。。。
Sephiroth0328@2005-06-23 16:26
片源好的话，压出来的RMVB质量越好，虽然比不上片源，但是质量很不错了~
用Real10高精度编码压出来的东西质量就不错~
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最初由 mummy 发布
RMVB是封闭编码，单就这点就够判它死刑了……
RAR和ZIP，两者都选最大压缩，压缩一个700M的文件，你可以看看两者时间差别，再看看压缩率差别……为了省那十来M浪费我半个小时时间，实在不划算
而且讲压缩率的话，7Z貌似比RAR还好，而且是FREEWARE
当然RAR也有它的优点，例如恢复记录，不过就不扯那么远了……
请问什么叫封闭编码？
sqk@2005-06-23 16:29
太专业的看的不太懂- -,只是觉得AVI太大,下起来不太方便
gaojinwen@2005-06-23 18:31
干脆以后只压RMVB好了,不压AVI了,这样大家都满意了吧?
Gzxhwq@2005-06-23 18:42
不如回到买rm压缩盘那时候吧，40M一集，体积多小，下载多方便。搬个凳子坐到10多米外看的效果和400M的avi一样……
wolfsoft@2005-06-23 18:50
又有来扯淡的,sigh
帖点英文砖头,爱咋咋吧
RV10, where should I begin? I know some people really like it, and it leaves a visually pleasing impression, but when you compare the results to the source, it leaves to be desired. And in my opinion, the progress since the last test has been less than stellar.
I was once again not impressed with the progress DivX has made. It's nice to have additional features available, but quality wise I just don't see one year of development. Plus, if you spend as much time using settings that are called insane by the codec, I'd expect to see something. Though, this time there were no problems with Futurama, something which was a problem in the last test.
WMV9: With WMV9 being standardized as VC1, we'll probably not see more features in it, but having a standardized bitstream and featureset doesn't mean there cannot be any progress. It's just that I have not really seen it since the beta. But, detail wise some things have changed and I recall rating WMV9 in the "less details" area, which it no longer is (if you look beyond the problems that WMV9 had on my machine). But, if I were a broadcaster or potential user of HD DVD/ Blu-Ray, seeing the result of WMV9 and ateme's AVC codecs, I'd definitely go for the AVC standard.
Finally, XviD, one year after taking the crown, had to give it back. It would've won again, if it were not for ateme's AVC codecs. So, if you make DVD backups now that need to work on a standalone or slower machine, XviD is still a very good option, but I guess we'll see AVC capable decoder chips in 2005.
......But, whereas details are smoothed out in RV10, they appear a bit blocky in HDX4. I'd probably have tended to give RV10 a better rating because of the almost complete lack of blocks, but taking into account how the source looks, I'm afraid a visually pleasing impression is just not good enough if the source is stripped of a lot of details.
......3ivX and DivX once again performed similarly, and RV10 delivered the usual performance: no blocks, but a definite lack of details the farther you go from the camera.
lichen0079@2005-06-23 18:51
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最初由 gaojinwen 发布
没空压RMVB...
即使如SEED-D的RMVB我也只下不看...挂机分流...AVI出了再看...
画质相差太远了...
SEED-D这类东西感觉画质再好也毫不到哪里去
视频的截图和单张图根本不可比
虽然NNNN多次都想截图保存,但是尝试NNNNNN次以后就放弃了,没图的时候觉得有张图该多好,等截图看了效果就想:还是动态的好
tetsuya@2005-06-23 19:16
因为AVI画质好
老鸟都不计较大小= =b
gaojinwen@2005-06-23 19:47
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最初由 Gzxhwq 发布
不如回到买rm压缩盘那时候吧，40M一集，体积多小，下载多方便。搬个凳子坐到10多米外看的效果和400M的avi一样……
现在的人啊..最少也要一张翻版D5压缩盘里面放上90集才买的说...
chenhai199@2005-06-23 19:58
哎，国内网络好啊~
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