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十二国记的音乐和英雄无敌4的BGM。。。。。有问题。。。

A502ALARM@2003-03-19 14:31

这两天联网玩英雄无敌4无意间发现在战役剧情模式的“海的女儿”一关中
在海上的BGM赫然就是十二幻梦曲中的TRACK08_風駿 一模一样,只是比十二国的要长,我还没有完整听下来,反正后面还有老长一段,何解?
不会是XX吧?
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御月无幻流@2003-03-19 16:56

哦哦,这个去年yellow就发现了,我因为没打过英雄无敌,所以没有留太深印象。嗯,因为东方丽韵里用到了茉莉花,所以我怀疑风骏的旋律是否也是某个国家的经典的民歌。
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A502ALARM@2003-03-19 21:46

.........................总觉得让人遗憾啊。
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cuke1982@2003-03-25 07:22

哦?是吗?英雄无敌我没玩过哦.
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ismael@2003-03-25 08:44

到是一个有名的游戏!!
可是我感觉也许是个巧合吧!!
按日本人的敬业精神来讲,不应该有抄袭的可能,
也许是都同时采用一段经典的民族插入曲!!
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mimicen@2003-03-25 13:13

老看到有人说……能不能提供一下英雄无敌4的那首bgm啊?
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godhand@2003-03-25 16:51

英雄无敌好听吗?
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A502ALARM@2003-03-25 17:33

英雄无敌4的音乐是强的没话说的
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weahwww@2003-03-25 23:16

感觉到了,一开始就觉得非常熟悉,后来想到了英雄无敌4
最近没事又翻出来玩,确定无疑是很像,但长度不同,谁有英雄无敌4的BGM阿~!
很期待~!
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hondat@2003-03-26 01:09

果然一模一样的,12国记没看过,但英雄无敌4是玩过的,那首叫“風駿”的曲子和英雄无敌4中名为“water”的曲子是一模一样的(长度也一样,我在云和山的彼端下载的風駿,时间是2分17秒,而我从英雄无敌4音乐文件中解出的water,时间是2分18秒)。water是指在water这种地形上播放的BGM,这首water是我从英雄无敌4中的音乐文件中解出来的。

各位可以运行英雄无敌4,然后把部队停到水面上,就会播放这首BGM,要不然可以解音乐文件,可以直接得到mp3文件的。

整个英雄无敌4曲风独特而连贯,看来应该是12国记照搬的这首,但还不清楚12国记为什么要照搬英雄无敌4的音乐,是否取得3DO公司的授权?

我会到网上去打探的,各位也打听一下啊,可惜没有英雄无敌4音乐制作人的email,要不然问起来就很方便了。
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hondat@2003-03-26 01:20

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最初由 ismael 发布
到是一个有名的游戏!!
可是我感觉也许是个巧合吧!!
按日本人的敬业精神来讲,不应该有抄袭的可能,
也许是都同时采用一段经典的民族插入曲!!


日本经济发达,但我不认为日本就会敬业到没有抄袭的可能,事实上,日本是出了名的“拿来主义”者,且有先例,如EVA的某些BGM,仅稍做了点修改。
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xinday@2003-03-26 13:51

的确是一样的,我早就发觉了~~~好象有点马后炮的说。
所以说对于国内的一些“拿来主义”,我们或许也应该宽容些
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hondat@2003-03-26 15:34

找到一点资料,英雄无敌4是Rob King领衔制作的,用他自己的话说就是“I am the Music and Sound Supervisor for NWC(hondat注:NWC即英雄无敌系列的制作公司). I have been writing and or producing the HOMM(hondat注:HOMM即英雄无敌的英文缩写) Scores since the first game. ”


Rob King发的帖子:
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Heroes 4 Music....It's Coming!

Hey Guys...Just Thought I would drop by and send a message. This is Rob King and I am the Music and Sound Supervisor for NWC. I have been writing and or producing the HOMM Scores since the first game. I Just finished the mixes up about 2 hours ago for the final Heroes of Might and Magic 4 Music. I have been reading posts and listening to all the fans about the music. All I can say is this game ROCKS! The score is amazing this time around. We used over 30 musicians in the making of the score. My good friend Paul Romero is back at the helm Composing and Conducting again. We have Opera.....Yes, It is back and better than ever my friends. Karin is back (From HOMM2) and we also used Dean from the NYC Opera. We also have a full Women's Choir and tons of string players. Justin only 17yrs old layed down an amazing flute track on The "Academy" Town. For the Adventure themes we went for a total different approach. The entire adventure score is Celtic. Using all live musicians. Bagpipes, Mandolins, Guitars,vocals and a bodhran. The new Combat themes are heavier and more aggressive. I have always been excited to work on these games especially because they are just plain good. I think you will all enjoy this soundtrack as much as I have creating it. I am pushing for a 1 or 2 cd set of "The HOMM Music Collection" to possibly be available down the road. It is always nice to read good things about the HOMM Music and I hope to keep makin' them as long as I can. This one has taken 6 months to do...And the game is in my opinion the best one EVER. Hope you all enjoy. Thanks Again,

Rob King
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以上资料来自这里,有兴趣的朋友自己去看吧。

PS:我已经发了一封信向Bob King询问了,只是我的英文太差,他是否能读懂?还有他是否愿意答复?如果有答复,我会告诉大家的。
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hondat@2003-03-27 10:26

很快,我收到回信了:
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Thanks for the update my friend. Actually the guys that performed those tracks own the samples, so they are free to license them to everyone...Just glad I got to use them first! :) They are a talented celtic group..Our arrangement is different though. Thanks!

Rob King
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照这封信看来,是Paul Romero等人有授权的权力,和NWC公司无关,但Rob King也没说Paul Romero是否授权给12国记的制作公司,对这个问题,我不想追查下去了。

很惭愧,Rob King能读懂我拿封语意不通的信,汗。
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weahwww@2003-03-27 12:01

你应该直接问:Paul Romero是否认识一个叫梁邦彦的日本人,不就得了~!
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