看完MF25话，发现AR结局是多么美好(307页,新曲,Pink Monsoon!)

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最初由 erikaliu 发布
這訪談是在告訴我河森你親口承認在亂搞25話嗎...還有綠毛到21話前都是塑造失敗嗎...綠毛我同情妳...21集不送走妳就要殘整整25話...感謝吉野吧.

看完蠻感嘆的...MF我是為了女王而追,但她一開始是河森棄子之後還是因為FANS關係而增加劇情.
(命運要靠自己掌握我到現在還是記的很清楚啊!)

不過MF能受到廣大迴響,雪露一定佔了很大的分量,最終25話若能改為AS+BR那麼就完美了...果然成也河森敗也河森嗎.

再問,雪露鳥人血統到底要幹嘛...還有耳環閃個不停,結果也沒有太多重大意義...ZERO BD的變動是為了什麼?

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最初由 馬甲雷 發布


首先我需要感謝你把我的回複看完。

然後請恕我稍稍無禮：你這麽說就有些取鬧的意味了。

恕刪

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最初由 hoh 发布


不要灰心，11区众的e文一向比较雷。

那句大致意思是松田聖子第一次得奖的时候已经出名了，而不是一个unknown。

下面代为继续了：

Kawamori on Episode 5:
森爷的第五话感想：
第五集本来是要把sheryl确认为兰卡的大姐姐一类的角色的。当脚本完成之时，sheryl作为女人的特质使得她可以成为一个（新的）主要角色。这是我们改得最多的一集，但直到此时我仍然不认为sheryl对frontier来说是一个重要角色。但Risa Ebata（某做人设的）说服了我给改过的脚本一个机会。当首播我看到fans们的反应时，我仍然不肯承认现实。几个小时以后，我们却已经在与big west开会讨论（因为sheryl的缘故）需要对第六话进行的改动了。

看来sheryl的确是因为人气太高，不得不增加戏份的角色。第五话森爷的如意算盘是吉野极力塑造女王，观众却不买帐，于是他可以正大光明的把女王线给否决掉。[/KH]没想到观众不配合，于是森爷哑巴吃黄莲。[/KH]

Connecting to Episode 18: Though the script has been changed as early as Episode 5 to work Sheryl's character into the story, expanding Sheryl's storyline is another matter, as Kawamori isn't sure which direction Sheryl should take, so Ohnogi asked to leave everything into his hands; he was given free reign over Episode 18+ onwards as Kawamori watched. Here, this is where Sheryl's character is "remade" and polished in Episode 22.
与十八话的联系
虽然早在第五话，为了把sheryl的角色加入故事的主线中已经更改了剧本，怎样扩展sheryl的故事却是另一回事。因为和森不确认sheryl应当往哪个方向发展，ohnogi希望能由他来主导sheryl故事的发展。从18话开始，他被给予了充分的自由。于是sherryl的角色被在22话中重新塑造。

好长啊，下面没意思的就不逐字逐句了。
* Episode 7: This episode was a gift to the mecha fans. Completely dedicated to them.

* Episode 10 : In the second half, Kawamori's cameo [the director] was unplanned. However, it [Ranka's fame] ended up being counterproductive, as Ranka in future episodes demanded much, so Kawamori believes her fame doesn't bring her good fortune. (The phrasing was vague in some parts, but this is the best I could do.)
第七话的废话就不翻译了。第十话和森的出现不是事先计划的，而且和森认为兰卡的名声对她没有好处。

* Kawamori on Episode 12: "I only made this episode to make people angry, and from there, the kira. Someone who arrives to a battle singing nowadays isn't as crazy as in the time of Macross 7." (stray: "I think the gist of 12 is that he wanted to go from raaaage... to.... kira!")

原来森爷本来就是为了惹火观众[/KH]

Kawamori on Episode 14: "Here I wanted to pay homage to the work of a great friend (Ohnogi)."
十四话说啥来着？不记得了。原来是想向ohnogi(大野木 寛), 致敬。


Episode 16: Another idea of Mikimoto's. To show how a romantic idea (singing) under the perspective of whatever government lose it's romantic meaning to become an instrument of war.
当歌作为武器时，它就不再浪漫了（御木本 幸吉的idea，但不浪漫不代表和森你可以把它做得搞笑啊）。


Kawamori on Episode 17: He's teasing fans who didn't get the pineapple salad concept; it's not fatal for Skull Leaders, just womanizers. That Roy was Skull Leader and a womanizer was just a coincidence.
和森同弄不明白菠萝萨拉是针对花花公子的fans们开了个玩笑。菠萝萨拉式的结局只对花花公子致命而不对骷髅队长致命。roy即是花花公子也是骷髅队长只是巧合（所以妹控没死他死了）。难不成森爷的老婆跟着花花公子跑了？所以那么恨花花公子么？
ozma大叔：roy你个傻逼，其实我生活比你丰富多了，左有美女右有基友偶尔还把把妹这个loli，为啥森爷对我没有意见？因为我低调，懂么，低调！！！做好姿态等别人上来倒贴永远比主动上去追有效果。:D :D :D

on episode 18(有关18话）: "It was cruel, because we pushed Sheryl to the limit farther than any other character until the end of the series, but I think this is where we see Sheryl Nome reborn by Ohnogi."
这是很残酷的一话。比起其他角色，一直到整个系列的末尾我们都把sheryl推得更接近她的极限。也正是因为这样，在22话我们看到ohnogi使sheryl重生了。


Kawamori on Episode 20 : "This was the most difficult episode I've had to direct in my career. I read in diverse forums that people were sad. The staff was the same way. But we were able to express exactly what we intended: the desperation."
不好导演的一集，各大论坛上fans们都很悲伤，staff也是。想表现绝望以后不顾一切的气氛，很成功。


Kawamori on Episode 21 : "This was the end of a cycle full of trying different things. The innocent version of Ranka Lee was different from the message we were trying to convey. Ohnogi then sent her on a voyage of self discovery. It was hard for us, and for her."
这段比较有意思，先直译一下森爷原话。
之前式了很多不同的东西，到了这一话想做个了断。之前兰卡天真无邪的形象与剧组想表达的意思不合拍。于是ohnogi把她送上了自我发现的旅程。对我们和对她来说都很难。

呵呵，这不就承认之前兰卡塑造失败了么？至于兰卡旅途中发现了什么？作为观众我实在没有看出来（估计她发现自己跟森爷一样神棍，于是便有了回来以后那一巴掌GJ）[/KH]。

Kawamori on Episode 22 : "Humility is the word. Ohnogi stopped here to polish sheryl. This episode is full of tests of humility."
谦逊是本话想表达的东西。本话充满了对谦逊品格的测试。ohnogi君则对sheryl的角色进行了很好的塑造。

Episode 23 : Family, the simple life. Dreams and actions. A good episode to show the real motivations of the main characters.
家庭，简单的生活，梦想与行动。本集展现了主要角色背后的真正动机。
[/KH] 我要杀了你，兰卡。我就是为此而生的——by 四角裤扎木。[/KH]

Kawamori on Episode 24 : "The last frontier of the heart is yourself. The fans loved the scenes of Alto and Sheryl, and I must say, so did I! They look great on screen. (laughs)"
和森原话，以下直译：
人最后的边界是自己的心。fans为alto和sheryl的场面而陶醉，而我也必须说我也十分喜爱这个场面。他们在荧幕上看着很漂亮。（笑^--^)。
以上是直译，怎么理解大家请便。和森为啥要笑？？？:( 为什么我有一种和森只是看了好看的感觉。

* Episode 25 was Kawamori's dream made reality.
森爷美梦成真，没啥好说的了。


Q1 : How would you define frontier with respect to your previous work?

Kawamori : "While Macross plus is a history where conflict arises in profound mental and physical trauma, adding emotional problems, in Frontier I wanted to express the type of conflict that could occur if it is not possible to understand suitably. To continue, Frontier is an example of the tragedies that can occur when [one] could not understand someone, by the fault of lacking a suitable language."
和之前作品的比较:
plus想表达因为之前受到的精神和物理创伤所造成的矛盾。而mf想表达的是因为没有互通的语言不能相互了解而产生的矛盾。

[/KH] 兰卡你就是一个好易通，怪不得。怎么也要升级成牛津英汉字典的水平（ms11区人英语都比较雷，森爷感叹的是这个么？）。

说实话不知道森爷怎么想出这个火星主题的。现在民族与民族国家与国家之间的不理解并不是简简单单一个语言的问题啊。语言努努力总是会通的，但问题的症结正如m1所表现的是文化和意识形态啊。

注解：连wiki上都查不出ohnogi(大野木 寛)到底是谁。英文wiki的mf页staff里没有这个名字。我觉得就是吉野（Hiroyuki Yoshino），日翻英翻错了。

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最初由 hoh 发布

* Episode 25 was Kawamori's dream made reality.
森爷美梦成真，没啥好说的了。