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[原创]关于RAHXEPHON的理解和猜想

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我也没有完全了解MU和巴贝姆的关系,自己的理解是这样的(带一些猜想):

MU大陆的历史应该是在亚特兰蒂斯之前,最后阶段与亚特兰蒂斯有短暂的重合,一种传说是MU衰落之后,一部分人潜入地下一直生存着,而另一部分人加入亚特兰蒂斯文明,而后来亚特兰蒂斯沉没前,有少部分的亚特兰蒂斯人辗转到达南美大陆,成为后来的那瓦克人的前身,那瓦克人由玛雅,阿斯特克,特得斯科3个宗族组成,这也就是RX中并用MU,玛雅和阿斯特克神话的基础。

巴贝姆曾经是MU的一员,而且RAHXEPHON SYSTEM是他的作品这个是没有问题的,具体MU和巴贝姆的关系我是这样理解的:RAHXEPHON是为了大周期到来所准备的,按玛雅神话,到达大周期这一天,9大行星会排成十字,然后世界重新净化,而RAHXEPHON SYSTEM是用来完成这个净化的装置,MU和巴贝姆至少在净化的结果上有不同的意见,可能因此巴贝姆被放逐到人间了。

对于MU是外星人这点,坚决反对。我认为MU是一直存在的,只是它位于另一重空间,所以平时是不可见的,并不是外星人突然降临。直接的证据就是,第一集中三轮有这样一句话:“HIRANIPURA回到原始坐标”,之后这座MU的空中都市便消失了,明显地说明,MU的都市并非不存在,只是次元空间不同,因而不可见。另外,久远和麻弥姐妹从MU的世界来到人间,也是通过“逆神隐”,也就是从另一空间来到人间,这个也很说明问题,如果按外星人来解释,MU还没降临到地球,她们两个从何而来?

麻弥和久远被六道教授收养,麻弥过了17岁,没有得到OLIN的资格,而久远进入冬眠状态,纳入巴贝姆财团的保护之下,并把久远的基因和负责研究的神名士郎的基因整合,制造出双子的OLIN—绫人和树,所以绫人姓神名是应该的,但麻弥是不是真的嫁给了神名士郎,我觉得倒不一定。她觉醒了,明白了自己是MU族,而且MU族需要一个OLIN倒可能是真的(否则绝对是巴贝姆独霸世界),因为自己已经过了17岁,没法成为OLIN,所以她必须要做绫人的母亲,把他带到MU的一边,而不是让巴贝姆把OLIN全都得到。之后就是MU去想一个办法把绫人的年龄“固定”在17岁之前,并且把他隔绝到巴贝姆的势力范围之外,这个办法就是TOKYO JUPITOR。但是这里有一个疑问,就是巴贝姆为什么眼看着麻弥把绫人带走而根本不管?也许他和MU有某种协议?也许他就是故意要让给MU一个OLIN,最后想看看世界到底属于哪种意志?这么想的话他还颇有胆识。而且麻弥肯定只是作为一个信使去把巴贝姆的礼物送给MU,“去东京结婚”只是去MU的领地的一个理由。唯一不通的地方就是干嘛他后来还要指使TERRA去把绫人抢回来……我也不明白

那么TOKYO JUPITOR呢?为了使大周期到来的时候绫人正好处于适格的年龄,就必须让OLIN的生长时间和外部环境的时间处于不同速度,对此,后来成为MU的CEO的麻弥和巴贝姆采取了不同的方式,MU制造了TOKYO JUPITOR,而巴贝姆采用维生模块来固化久远的年龄,也就是说,MU和巴贝姆各得到一个OLIN,互相分隔进行培养,期望他(她)能代表自己的意志。毕竟RAHXEPHON SYSTEM的运转需要黑白两个RAHXEPHON来完成,而他们之间的争斗实际上是代表了MU和巴贝姆的意志,哪一方的意志获胜,世界净化之后的样子便按照哪一方的安排来整合。MU和巴贝姆自己并不能改造世界,而是通过培养自己的OLIN来间接传达自己的意志,所以MU和巴贝姆之间既相互需要(需要对方的OLIN来完成系统),又互相矛盾(对完成的新世界意见不同)。虽然最后绫人落到巴贝姆手里,久远回到MU一边,两方也仍然各自获得一个OLIN,但最终绫人并没有受这两边任一方控制,久远虽然一度表现出屈从命运的态度,但最终并非完全按他人意志行事,最后一集中绫人所转变的真圣和久远所转变的黑耀石之蝶的战斗也以真圣的获胜告终,因此新世界以绫人的意志而非久远的意志为基础,唯一体现久远意志的地方就是她成为了结合树和绫人两者的大绫人的女儿,可以继续受到树的照顾。而后来出现的成年绫人并非只是绫人本身,而是树和绫人两兄弟的结合体,这样遥也不会继续去作对绫人有爱,对树有罪的女人了。最后一集最后一段是刚刚开始发掘出RAHXEPHON的时候,绫人和遥第一次见面的时候,两个人14岁,因此根本不是新世界形成才发生的事情,是倒叙。

另外,巴贝姆是个老谋深算的人,他在控制OLIN和黑色RAHXEPHON的同时,还在秘密制造了备用RAHXEPHON和备用OLIN,也就是量产型的VAMILION和一色真,小夜子等人。我觉得如果想了解这些,就必须看明白第15集,在这集中,一色所找到的那个泥土做的大疙瘩就是试验中的量产型RAHXEPHON,因为技术不过关,最后碎掉,经过研究最后得到的成品就是VAMILION,也就是作为系统的硬件存在的;而软件方面,也需要不断的失败,不断更新,一色就是他这个系列产品中的一个型号,他的老师是比他老的型号,而后来集体驾驶VAMILION与MU战斗的那些是比他新的型号,因为有了更新的型号,所以一色没用了,老头子就把他给放弃了,结局很惨。还记得吗?第15集中一色是想找自己的父母,但最后摔下来的时候,他在半梦半醒中看到了很多高矮胖瘦长相和自己一样的人,为什么作者非让他去找父母?因为他没有父母,只能找到他自己之前的那些型号,已经被废弃了的,只作为型号而不作为人被废弃了的那么多前辈。而七森小夜子,连一色的级别都到不了,就更是废品。他们甚至连名字都没有,大家仔细看这两个人的名字,一色真,姓是ISHIKI,这个字也可以写成“一式”,就象高达里的“百式”一样,仅仅是一个型号的称呼;而七森小夜子,是日语7.345的谐音,也就是女性量产型OLIN ver.7.345的意思,根本没有把她当作过人,而是当作软件来按版本号开发。他们只不过是老头子怕万一RAHXEPHON的计划失败,可以用来顶替的东西罢了。

其实“圣诞夜”那集里面,贰神让二和一色真喝酒的那段对话很有意思:

一色:圣诞节原本是庆祝冬至的节日,可是基督徒们却擅自把这一天变成了基督的生日
(大周期本来只是历法中的一个特别的日子,但是MU却认为这一天地球会重新整合)
贰神:你也是无神论者吗?
(你也不希望这样的事发生?)
一色:宗教和宗教活动可完全是两回事
(相信世界会更新和去完成这个更新是两回事)
贰神:小时候,当渔夫的爷爷和我说他看到了一头白鲸,之后他对我说“给你这个”就无缘无故地就把他心爱的匕首给了我,在下次出海捕鱼时,爷爷就再也没能回来。那时爷爷…应该已经知道他就要死了吧?你,怎么想呢?
(既然知道了这么做会让现在的世界毁灭,你们还要那么做,你是怎么打算的?)

所以实际上TERRA的态度也很微妙呢,他们知道巴贝姆想做什么,但是为了对抗MU,又成为暂时的同盟,成为巴贝姆争夺RAHXEPHON和OLIN的工具,也许他们也希望,最终世界的样子,可以按自己的方向发展吧……(以上是猜想,嘿嘿)

反正这个片子本身就是需要多看几遍去理解的,我也就能理解到这个程度,希望大家一起讨论一下具体的细节。至少我是这么认为的,这个片子最吸引人的是它的细节,当你理清了头绪之后再看第二遍,会发现里面有很多小的细节是那么的合理,很有意思。但是也可能象我一样,弄出一些错误的结论来,大家一起讨论,才可能得出全部的结果吧



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本来RAH就比EVA矮一头了,在国内连个自己专门的讨论区都没有



what's your mean!!!!!
RAH就比EVA矮一头???!!!!!
在国内连个自己专门的讨论区都没有 ???!!!
what's this !!!!!!!!!

http://www.rahxephon-cn.com/bbs1/index.asp

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2 Can You Explain the Ending of RahXephon?
RahX的结局到底发生了什么,具有什么涵义
October 23rd, 2002

Question:
Can you explain what RahXephon was about or what actually happened at the end?


Answer:
Inevitably comparisons will be drawn between the conclusions of Evangelion and RahXephon, but such are to be expected given the similarities between the two shows in style, theme and intent. The imagery of the finales of both shows as well are bound to create speculation based on their similarity. However, if anything, I personally think that RahXephon has more in common thematically with Shoujo Kakumei Utena, another TV anime that tread the same ground, than it does with Evangelion. On its surface, RahXephon is a complete, logical science-fiction story of Pinocchio- the tale of a puppet who becomes a real boy. If my symbolic analysis is accurate, RahXephon may also be taken as a parable of growth, maturity and most of all self-determination.

不可避免的将要把EVA与RahX的结局相比较。因为两部作品有众多的相同点(风格,主题,目的)
根据他们的相似点,两部作品的终结都创造了思考的空间。然而,比起EVA,我个人认为RahX和Shoujo Kakumei Utena(好像是少女革命…)的论题更为相近。从表面上说,RahX是一部完整的,具有逻辑的皮诺曹从玩偶变成男孩科幻故事,如果我的分析准确的话,RahX也可以认为是一部具有关于成长,成熟以及大部分的自主/自我抉择的寓意的作品

Like its predecessors Evangelion and Utena, RahXephon is a story about a youth striving to overcome the insecurities and fears of childhood and develop into a self-aware and self-sufficient adult. Evangelion told the story of a young boy whose self esteem and sense of self worth were so minimal that he was unable to self-actualize and recognize himself as an independent person. Shinji defined himself as the Evangelion Unit 01 pilot, or as his father's son, or as the object of Asuka's projected guilt, but never as Shinji Ikari. Shinji's dilemma is fundamentally different from that of Ayato Kamina, although not entirely foreign to the world of RahXephon. RahXephon is a story about not merely coming into oneself, but fulfilling oneself and, like Utena, revolutionizing the world. While "revolutionizing the world" in Utena meant symbolically exchanging the world of adolescence for that of adulthood, RahXephon plays on both the internal, mental evolution of Ayato Kamina's own psychological world, and on the external level of Ayato physically altering the world around him by effecting the people that surround him.

就像先辈EVA和Utena,RahX是一部关于年轻人努力克服幼年不安和恐惧并成为一个具有自我意识与自足的成年人的故事。EVA讲述了一个自尊和自我价值非常弱的少年男孩无法发挥自我潜力并认同自己是一个独立的人的故事。Shinji把自己认作EVA01的驾驶员,或是父亲的儿子,或是Asuka发泄的对象,但从不是Shinji Ikari。Shinji的窘境从根本上与Ayato Kamina(神名绫人)不同,虽然不是完全对
RahXephon世界陌生。RahXehpon是一个关于不是仅仅意识到自己,而是实现自己,就像Utena,使世界变革。世界变革在Utena中意味着把青春期的世界变为成人的世界,RahXephon则同时描述了从内在的,心理演变的Ayato的心理世界,和外在的层面上,物质上得改变他周围的世界,通过影响自身周围的人们。

In the final episodes of RahXephon, Ayato recognizes that he has lost his memories of his past and has refused to recognize the love extended to him by Haruka and Hiroko and Elvy and Megumi. He's always running away because he's uncertain of his own humanity- in effect, afraid of commitment, afraid to be completely Murian or human, child or adult. When he says that either his or Quon's world must be destroyed and absorbed by the other, he symbolically means that he must determine his own future. He can either take his place in adult society and make his mark on the world, or allow himself to be absorbed, marginalized and victimized by society and life itself, represented by Quon. God has set Ayato on the road of life, and it's now time for Ayato himself to choose his own direction and purpose. Literally, as the final episode reveals, Lord Barbem is the deistic god of RahXephon who created the board, set the pieces in motion, then stepped back to watch how the game would play out. Ayato is one of the pieces given the choice of not moving, moving as expected, or making his own rules and moving as he desires.

在RahX最终话中,Ayato意识到他丧失了从前的记忆,并拒绝意识到Haruka ,Hiroko,Elvy与Megumi对他的爱。他始终逃避,因为对自己的人性不确定 - 实际上,害怕承担,害怕是完全的Mu族或是人类,孩子或是大人。当他说到他的世界或是Quon的世界必须被摧毁并被另一个世界同化,他象征性得表达了他必须决定他的未来。他可以立足于成人社会中并在世界上有所成就,或是仍由他自己被社会歧视,(由Quon表达)。神为Ayato准备了人生的道路,现在是Ayato自己决定方向的时候。(…………)(关于Barbem和细节看楼顶的帖子,很详细了……)
Ayato自己决定是否进行,按照预料的进行或是按照自己的意愿进行

Quon, in the form of Ishitori, seeks to destroy Ayato in the final episode. Quon may be considered the external influence of the world. In Ayato's mind she explains to him that she is part of him and he, part of her. She also helps him come to realize that he is not alone in the world and that he does have the power to change his own life and change the world around him. At the same time, she is the pressure to grow and mature. If Ayato does not make up his own mind and exert his full potential, he will die, be destroyed. Ayato's choice is to either forcibly exercises his will on the world by accepting the woman he loves and making sacrifices and accepting his own identity, or be squashed underfoot and absorbed into the larger world as a nameless, faceless pawn. In the same way, Ayato's mother Maya urges Haruka to make her own fate, shape her own future. Actually, both Maya and Megumi prod Haruka to fulfill her own dream and chase after what she wants. Just as Ayato is never really alone, Haruka as well has people around her that support her and encourage her to grow and mature and shape her own future by her own will.

在最后一话中,Quon,在Ishitori形态下,要摧毁Ayato。Quon可以被认为是世界中外在的影响。在Ayato的脑海中她对他结识了她是他的一部分,他也是她的一部分。她也帮助了Ayato意识到他在世界上不是孤独的,他有改变他自己命运和改变周围世界的力量。同时,她是成长和成熟的压力。如果Ayato不下决心并且发挥全部千里的话,他会死去,被摧毁。Ayato的抉择是强有力得表达自己的意愿,通过接受他所爱的人并做出牺牲与接受他自我;或是作为一个无名小卒被踩在脚下,吸收入更大的世界。 同样的,Ayato母亲Maya驱使Haruka决定她自己的命运,她自己的未来。实际上,Maya和Megumi都激励Haruka达成她自己的梦想。正如Ayato从不是孤独的,Haruka周围也有支持她鼓励她成长,成熟,通过自己的意愿实现自己的未来。

Itsuki and Makoto and Maya and Sayoko are all in the same situation as Ayato. They recognize themselves as only roles or clones, not individuals. Their inability to will themselves into being anything than mere clones or pawns results in them not being able to exist in the world. In the Darwinistic world of RahXephon, the strong survive. Characters that don't have the will or determination to force their own personality and desires onto and into the world become nothing more than victims and sacrifices. Characters like Ayato and Haruka and Megumi make an active effort to achieve their desires and express themselves. Itsuki, who sees himself as nothing more than Ayato's useless brother; Makoto, who is obsessed with being a "D"; Maya, who sees herself as nothing more than Ayato's mother; and Sayoko, who cannot accept the fact that she's a clone, but likewise cannot graduate into recognizing herself as an independent individual, do not make efforts to survive or adapt or recognize themselves as valuable, independent people. They do not value their individuality or self-worth and as a result, cease to exist when their self-defined purpose is fulfilled.

Itsuki ,Makoto , Maya , Sayoko 的处境都和Ayato相同。他们仅把自己人做角色或是复制品,而不是个人。他们未能发挥意愿认识到自己不仅仅是克隆或是棋子使得他们不能存在于世界上。RahX世界中就像达尔文的理论,适者生存。
像Ayato , Haruka , Megumi 这些角色努力得实现他们的愿望并表达出来。
Itsuki,只把自己当作Ayato没用的哥哥;Makoto,困扰于作为"D";Maya,仅把自己当作Ayato的母亲;Sayoko,无法接受她自己是克隆的事实。
无法渐渐认识到自己独立的个体,没有努力去接受,认识到自己是有价值的独立的人,无法继续存在。

Ayato does exert his own will. He recognizes and accepts that he is not alone, is not an island unto himself, and makes a conscious decision to commit to those circumstances. By revealing that Reika Mishima was actually Haruka all along (or at least RahXephon's "astral projection" of Harkua), the animation reveals to the viewer that Ayato has never been totally alone. The spirit of his first love has always been with him and supported him and gives him a reason to break out of his shell. As the omnipresent birds, and the final imagery of Ayato in Ishitori form all strive to convey, Ayato figuratively spreads his wings. When Ayato "tunes the world," he attunes himself to the world by proclaiming his individuality and announcing to the world that he will live and be happy and love who he wants to love. He accepts adulthood by accepting responsibility for himself and committing to the future he wants for himself.

Ayato确实努力表达了他自己的意愿。他认识并接受了自己并不是孤独的,在各种情况下做出了清醒的决定。
从后来我们知道,Mishima实际上从一开始就是Haruka(或至少是Haruka的RahXephon星的映射),动画暗示了读者Ayato从来没有完全的孤独过。他第一次的爱的记忆始终伴随着他,支持他并给与他理由打破他的躯壳。。正如无所不在的鸟儿,与最终Ayato处于Ishitori状态下意象所要表达的,Ayato象征性得张开翅膀。当Ayato“调律世界”时,他使得自己与世界调和(通过声明自己的个体和向世界宣布他会快乐得活下去并爱他所爱的人。通过接受了自己的责任与自己对未来的使命,他真正了成年了。

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这两篇转载自
http://www.animenation.net/news/askjohn_archive.php?PHPSESSID=3109b25353e6fc185f6a07438986ca51

本人翻译;)
第一篇翻译完成

1 Is RahXephon an Evangelion Rip Off?
RahXephon到底是不是照搬EVA??

August 20th, 2002
Question:
Surely you've heard of the debate that's been going on, comparing RahXephon against Eva. Some say it outright rips it off while others say there are similarities but nothing more. I'm curious to see what your take on this is since I'm sure we'll hear about it more once ADV releases this.
Answer:

Overexposure has dulled my enthusiasm for Evangelion over the years, but I still like and respect the show very much. Evangelion offers amazing action choreography and a stunning level of intellectual depth and philosophical pontification. RahXephon isn't nearly as intellectual or theoretical, but is instead much more mysterious and subtle and, I dare say, artistic than Evangelion. To some degree I have trouble comparing them because Evangelion seems to be a show with an agenda, a point to make, while RahXephon is much more a show seemingly intended only to be engaging and stimulating and entertaining.

几年来过多的讨论让我失去了对EVA的热情,不过我仍然喜欢和敬重EVA。EVA包含了了漂亮的动作情节和颇有深度的思想及哲学思想
RahXephon并不是那么的有思想上的深度或是具有理论性,取而代之的是更多的神秘和微妙细节,并且,我敢说,比EVA更具有艺术性
从某种程度上,对比他们比较麻烦,因为EVA像是一部根据日程发展的作品,RahX更迷人,具趣味性,娱乐性。

In that respect, RahXephon is less challenging and therefore easier to enjoy and like than Evangelion. I wouldn't say that RahXephon "rips off" Evangelion, especially considering that Evangelion itself is a psychological parody and theoretical analysis of the giant robot anime genre that's existed since the early 1970s. (In other words, Evangelion is very far from "original" itself.) RahXephon actually borrows far more heavily from Megazone 23 than it does Evangelion, and even Evangelion could be said to be heavily influenced by Megazone 23. I think that in its effort to be purely artistic entertainment, RahXephon knowingly pays homage to both Megazone 23 and Evangelion in the same way Evangelion re-uses the concept of a boy piloting his father's giant robot that was used 20 years before in Mobile Suit Gundam, which itself borrowed the idea from even older shows like Tetsujin 28 and Mazinger.

从这点来说,RahX不那么复杂因此比起EVA更容易欣赏,我不认为RahX照搬了EVA,特别考虑到EVA自身是一部心理学讽刺与和理论分析的大型机器人动画,此类别早在70年代就出现了(换句话说,EVA远离了本身的原创性)。比起EVA,RahX实际上更多地借鉴了Megazone 23这部动画,甚至可以说EVA是深受Megazone 23影响。
我认为成为达到纯艺术性的娱乐作品,RahX蓄意得借鉴了Megazone 23与Evangeion,就像EVA重新使用了20年前儿子驾驶父亲的巨型机器人的概念,Gundam,而这个概念本身又是借鉴自更老的作品像Tetsujin 28和Mazinger。


To summarize, I would say that the similarities between RahXephon and Evangelion are intentional. To summarize in an analogy, RahXephon is to Evangelion as Baz Luhrmann's Romeo+Juliet is to Franco Zeffirelli' Romeo & Juliet. Neither is Shakespeare's original, and both are exceptional productions and each enjoyable in their own rights, but one is highly classical and literary while the other is more contemporary and easily accessible.

总结:我想说RahX与EVA之间的相似点是故意的。
据个例子,就像Baz Luhrmann's Romeo+Juliet 和 Franco Zeffirelli' Romeo & Juliet (这个我不知道>_<),都是从各自角度非常精彩的作品,一部非常经典,具很高文学价值;另一部则更具当代性,更容易理解。

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只看该作者 102楼 发表于: 2003-10-01
刚看了RahX,和几篇重要的文章
既然讨论了这么多本身的揭秘,应该看看另一方面,即动画本身的一些内涵

关于RahX与EVA
以及RahX更基本的一些寓意
翻译中~~1天内完成

1 Is RahXephon an Evangelion Rip Off?

August 20th, 2002
Question:
Surely you've heard of the debate that's been going on, comparing RahXephon against Eva. Some say it outright rips it off while others say there are similarities but nothing more. I'm curious to see what your take on this is since I'm sure we'll hear about it more once ADV releases this.
Answer:

Overexposure has dulled my enthusiasm for Evangelion over the years, but I still like and respect the show very much. Evangelion offers amazing action choreography and a stunning level of intellectual depth and philosophical pontification. RahXephon isn't nearly as intellectual or theoretical, but is instead much more mysterious and subtle and, I dare say, artistic than Evangelion. To some degree I have trouble comparing them because Evangelion seems to be a show with an agenda, a point to make, while RahXephon is much more a show seemingly intended only to be engaging and stimulating and entertaining.

In that respect, RahXephon is less challenging and therefore easier to enjoy and like than Evangelion. I wouldn't say that RahXephon "rips off" Evangelion, especially considering that Evangelion itself is a psychological parody and theoretical analysis of the giant robot anime genre that's existed since the early 1970s. (In other words, Evangelion is very far from "original" itself.) RahXephon actually borrows far more heavily from Megazone 23 than it does Evangelion, and even Evangelion could be said to be heavily influenced by Megazone 23. I think that in its effort to be purely artistic entertainment, RahXephon knowingly pays homage to both Megazone 23 and Evangelion in the same way Evangelion re-uses the concept of a boy piloting his father's giant robot that was used 20 years before in Mobile Suit Gundam, which itself borrowed the idea from even older shows like Tetsujin 28 and Mazinger.

To summarize, I would say that the similarities between RahXephon and Evangelion are intentional. To summarize in an analogy, RahXephon is to Evangelion as Baz Luhrmann's Romeo+Juliet is to Franco Zeffirelli' Romeo & Juliet. Neither is Shakespeare's original, and both are exceptional productions and each enjoyable in their own rights, but one is highly classical and literary while the other is more contemporary and easily accessible.


2 Can You Explain the Ending of RahXephon?

October 23rd, 2002

Question:
Can you explain what RahXephon was about or what actually happened at the end?


Answer:
Inevitably comparisons will be drawn between the conclusions of Evangelion and RahXephon, but such are to be expected given the similarities between the two shows in style, theme and intent. The imagery of the finales of both shows as well are bound to create speculation based on their similarity. However, if anything, I personally think that RahXephon has more in common thematically with Shoujo Kakumei Utena, another TV anime that tread the same ground, than it does with Evangelion. On its surface, RahXephon is a complete, logical science-fiction story of Pinocchio- the tale of a puppet who becomes a real boy. If my symbolic analysis is accurate, RahXephon may also be taken as a parable of growth, maturity and most of all self-determination.

Like its predecessors Evangelion and Utena, RahXephon is a story about a youth striving to overcome the insecurities and fears of childhood and develop into a self-aware and self-sufficient adult. Evangelion told the story of a young boy whose self esteem and sense of self worth were so minimal that he was unable to self-actualize and recognize himself as an independent person. Shinji defined himself as the Evangelion Unit 01 pilot, or as his father's son, or as the object of Asuka's projected guilt, but never as Shinji Ikari. Shinji's dilemma is fundamentally different from that of Ayato Kamina, although not entirely foreign to the world of RahXephon. RahXephon is a story about not merely coming into oneself, but fulfilling oneself and, like Utena, revolutionizing the world. While "revolutionizing the world" in Utena meant symbolically exchanging the world of adolescence for that of adulthood, RahXephon plays on both the internal, mental evolution of Ayato Kamina's own psychological world, and on the external level of Ayato physically altering the world around him by effecting the people that surround him.

In the final episodes of RahXephon, Ayato recognizes that he has lost his memories of his past and has refused to recognize the love extended to him by Haruka and Hiroko and Elvy and Megumi. He's always running away because he's uncertain of his own humanity- in effect, afraid of commitment, afraid to be completely Murian or human, child or adult. When he says that either his or Quon's world must be destroyed and absorbed by the other, he symbolically means that he must determine his own future. He can either take his place in adult society and make his mark on the world, or allow himself to be absorbed, marginalized and victimized by society and life itself, represented by Quon. God has set Ayato on the road of life, and it's now time for Ayato himself to choose his own direction and purpose. Literally, as the final episode reveals, Lord Barbem is the deistic god of RahXephon who created the board, set the pieces in motion, then stepped back to watch how the game would play out. Ayato is one of the pieces given the choice of not moving, moving as expected, or making his own rules and moving as he desires.

Quon, in the form of Ishitori, seeks to destroy Ayato in the final episode. Quon may be considered the external influence of the world. In Ayato's mind she explains to him that she is part of him and he, part of her. She also helps him come to realize that he is not alone in the world and that he does have the power to change his own life and change the world around him. At the same time, she is the pressure to grow and mature. If Ayato does not make up his own mind and exert his full potential, he will die, be destroyed. Ayato's choice is to either forcibly exercises his will on the world by accepting the woman he loves and making sacrifices and accepting his own identity, or be squashed underfoot and absorbed into the larger world as a nameless, faceless pawn. In the same way, Ayato's mother Maya urges Haruka to make her own fate, shape her own future. Actually, both Maya and Megumi prod Haruka to fulfill her own dream and chase after what she wants. Just as Ayato is never really alone, Haruka as well has people around her that support her and encourage her to grow and mature and shape her own future by her own will.

Itsuki and Makoto and Maya and Sayoko are all in the same situation as Ayato. They recognize themselves as only roles or clones, not individuals. Their inability to will themselves into being anything than mere clones or pawns results in them not being able to exist in the world. In the Darwinistic world of RahXephon, the strong survive. Characters that don't have the will or determination to force their own personality and desires onto and into the world become nothing more than victims and sacrifices. Characters like Ayato and Haruka and Megumi make an active effort to achieve their desires and express themselves. Itsuki, who sees himself as nothing more than Ayato's useless brother; Makoto, who is obsessed with being a "D"; Maya, who sees herself as nothing more than Ayato's mother; and Sayoko, who cannot accept the fact that she's a clone, but likewise cannot graduate into recognizing herself as an independent individual, do not make efforts to survive or adapt or recognize themselves as valuable, independent people. They do not value their individuality or self-worth and as a result, cease to exist when their self-defined purpose is fulfilled.

Ayato does exert his own will. He recognizes and accepts that he is not alone, is not an island unto himself, and makes a conscious decision to commit to those circumstances. By revealing that Reika Mishima was actually Haruka all along (or at least RahXephon's "astral projection" of Harkua), the animation reveals to the viewer that Ayato has never been totally alone. The spirit of his first love has always been with him and supported him and gives him a reason to break out of his shell. As the omnipresent birds, and the final imagery of Ayato in Ishitori form all strive to convey, Ayato figuratively spreads his wings. When Ayato "tunes the world," he attunes himself to the world by proclaiming his individuality and announcing to the world that he will live and be happy and love who he wants to love. He accepts adulthood by accepting responsibility for himself and committing to the future he wants for himself.

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只看该作者 101楼 发表于: 2003-09-14
其实很多东西仔细看仔细想是能够搞明白的,(比如说人物之间的关系)
苦于以前没有了解那些神话所以看起来很吃力
我是看的要重看一遍的
很感动他们的爱情故事
至少在赚人眼泪这一点翼神传说是当之无愧的比EVA强
至于世界观啊人设什么的各有优点
又何必强求他人与自己意见一致?
但是互相侮蔑就不好了

time to say goodbye~
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只看该作者 100楼 发表于: 2003-09-10
楼主研究的够仔细啊

菩提本无树,明镜亦非台,心若无一物,何处惹尘埃。
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只看该作者 99楼 发表于: 2003-09-07
感谢楼主,我刚看完Rahxephon,解了不少谜团呢……
请问Rahxephon是否有更详细的资料或者解惑书呢(比如 久远 的诗的更多解释)。

很希望有人能做一个主题站,不过现在的动漫爱好者(包括我)的热情比以前似乎已经减少很多了呢(难道是因为动画太多而且太容易得到的缘故?)……

另外个人到现在也未理解为什么浩子要出来和凌人战斗,难道耗子在T.J里遇到凌人的时候都在演戏(完全不了解MU的事情)?她只是为了来到Rahxephon身边来实施镇压而已吗?如果是这样的话,以实力来看本来就没必要。如果说在T.J
她什么都不知道的话,来到外部世界就能操纵一个Dolme,而且还用它来和凌人战斗——就更不合理了……
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只看该作者 98楼 发表于: 2003-09-05
关于翼神传说,《梦幻总动员》某期有非常到位的解说和解释,翼神传说的许多背景资料和设定都是借鉴美洲的神秘文明玛雅和阿兹特克的文化遗产的。

msm
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只看该作者 97楼 发表于: 2003-09-03
不太相信最後是綾人和樹的結合體......
死也不信


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只看该作者 96楼 发表于: 2003-09-03
这部东西还真的是很难懂啊
介绍讨论分析研究看了很多了,不过还有些许的疑问
剧场版是众望所归的解谜之匙吧
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只看该作者 95楼 发表于: 2003-09-03
始终觉得,情节的处理有些勉强
和EVA那让人摸不着头脑的结局有点像
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只看该作者 94楼 发表于: 2003-09-03
恩恩~~~
我也这么认为啊~~
不过伊修托利选择用遥的14随身行来也是为了OLIN吗?
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只看该作者 93楼 发表于: 2003-09-02
啊,啊,好遗憾啊,我还没有看完……太忙了的说
一定要去找来看完!
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只看该作者 92楼 发表于: 2003-09-02
写得好...不错!!
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